So the last of these chapters pretty much came exactly as i was expecting them to. The first half of the book i was expecting a total uprising and the lower party members taking over the inner party. After a while it became pretty obvious that nothing of this sort was going to happen and that Winston and Julia were eventually going to fall to the party.(i did not think so much for the party though)
One of the things about in this section was that O' Brien was actually very honest with Winston. He told Winston the parties true intentions and that all they really cared about was power and not the people. I liked the part where Winston started talking back against O' Brien even though he was going through torture and everything. He says that Big Brother can not rule with hatred and fear and that they will eventually fail.
The way that they eventually got Winston to drop his emotions was both horrible and brilliant, putting a persons worst fear right in front of them can make someone do anything. Winston dropped Julia like that. In the end when he and Julia met he noticed two changes in her one was that she had thickened up and the other was that she had stiffened also, which symbolizes that even she really died not literally but spiritually.
Sunday, October 19, 2008
Monday, October 13, 2008
Pages 225-260
The beginning of this section Winston is in the Ministry of Love and he makes the statement, "He was in a high-ceilinged windowless cell with walls of glittering white porcelain." From what is giving to us as the reader about the Ministry of Love is that it is a dark place from the torture and all of that it is pretty much a prison. In the story there is the statement that it is never dark, the very bright lights in the rooms are why this is i think. It is ironic about how it is the place that is never dark and all of this torture and death is going on inside.
A woman enters Winstons cell and she is kicking and thrashing, but when she gets put and she settles down a little bit she asks Winston what his nam is and he says Smith and the woman states that her name is Smith also and that she could be Winstons mother. Winston thinks that it is possible but right aways throws the thought away. I think he doesnt try to find out is the woman is his mother because what he has already been through and that everyone in this place, The Ministry of Love, is probally going to die that he really doesnt want to know if she is his mother or not.
O' Brien finally walks into the room and Winston cant help but say, "They've got you too." at this remark O' Brien states, "They got me along time ago." We all knew that O' Brien was a bad guy and Winston knows that he knew it too but why does he keep on going with O' Brien then if he had known what was going to happen. I think the answer to my own question is simply that he liked the feeling of being able to do as he pleased. He wasnt being controled by anyone (he thought) and he liked the feedom.
Finally, Winston is but through torture and the Ministy of Love does this to get the prisoners to their weakest point of survival, where the prisoners finially look at themselves at what they really are they havnt seen their physical appearence and the party shows them what they would become without them. At this i think that the party siezes the chance to manipulate the prisoner into becomeing a better party member and it seems that from what O' Brien says about them getting him a long time ago, that maybe they are training winston into becomeing part of big brother himself as an inner party member.
A woman enters Winstons cell and she is kicking and thrashing, but when she gets put and she settles down a little bit she asks Winston what his nam is and he says Smith and the woman states that her name is Smith also and that she could be Winstons mother. Winston thinks that it is possible but right aways throws the thought away. I think he doesnt try to find out is the woman is his mother because what he has already been through and that everyone in this place, The Ministry of Love, is probally going to die that he really doesnt want to know if she is his mother or not.
O' Brien finally walks into the room and Winston cant help but say, "They've got you too." at this remark O' Brien states, "They got me along time ago." We all knew that O' Brien was a bad guy and Winston knows that he knew it too but why does he keep on going with O' Brien then if he had known what was going to happen. I think the answer to my own question is simply that he liked the feeling of being able to do as he pleased. He wasnt being controled by anyone (he thought) and he liked the feedom.
Finally, Winston is but through torture and the Ministy of Love does this to get the prisoners to their weakest point of survival, where the prisoners finially look at themselves at what they really are they havnt seen their physical appearence and the party shows them what they would become without them. At this i think that the party siezes the chance to manipulate the prisoner into becomeing a better party member and it seems that from what O' Brien says about them getting him a long time ago, that maybe they are training winston into becomeing part of big brother himself as an inner party member.
Wednesday, October 8, 2008
Pages 179-224
So the beginning of this is Winston working all hard and what not for hate week and he finally gets to start to read the book that was written by Goldstein. He takes no waste in time to start reading the book and when Julia walks in she isnt to interested in reading the book. And they both soon fall asleep. The place in which both of them thought they were safe and out of harms (or the party) way is actually all just a huge set up because after they wake up the soon notice that there is a "bug" behind the painting. The thought police come and arrest them and we as the readers find out that Mr. Charrington actually is with the party or what ever.
All of this should have been excpected being the reader it seems pretty obvious that all of this is going to happen so i dont understand how Julia and Winston didnt know all of this was going to happen. In the end all i could think of was that both Winston and Julia are pretty much getting messed with throughout this whole thing.
All of this should have been excpected being the reader it seems pretty obvious that all of this is going to happen so i dont understand how Julia and Winston didnt know all of this was going to happen. In the end all i could think of was that both Winston and Julia are pretty much getting messed with throughout this whole thing.
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
157-179
In this weeks section there was not that many pages to get through, at the beginning of the section Winston is walking down the corridor and O'Brien is walking behind him and Winston turns around, O'Brien takes his shoulder and they are walking side by side until the get in front of a telescreen and he writes his address on a slip of paper and hands it to Winston telling him that he could pick up the tenth edition of the Newspeak Dictionary. And there is good foreshadowing in the last almost two sentences of page 159 that state, "...a chilly shuddering feeling had taken possession of his body. He had the sensation of stepping into the dampness of a grave, and it was not much better because he had always known that the grave was there and waiting for him." it goes to show the reader that eventually it is as if Winston is going to put himself into the grave he is stepping into due to he rebelling against the party.
This next part of the reading begins with Winston waking up with his eyes full of tears, he had awoken from a dream he had, and a memory connected to it when he had woke up. He stats, "that until this moment i beliesed i had murdered my mother?" The thought of it being your fault that someone is dead is horrid, not only does the thought change your emotions it can also consume you for the longest time until you force it to a unconsious place in your mind. The detail of the memory that Winston has is incredible, that so long ago before the party corrupted him all this happened and now that he is rebeling he sort of getting all of his memories back. On page 165 Winston stats, "The proles are human beings," he said aloud. "We are not human." This is an excilent part of the story it goes to show the reader that the proles stayed human and they didnt become corrupt and hardened inside like tha party members have.
Starting on page 167, the next section gives the reader a pretty good interpetation of the room that Winston and Julia were standing in. The book also states the it is a very rare occation that a outer party member got to see or visit the dwelling spot or and inner party member. Winston is amazed at the fact the O'Brien has the ability and the pricilege to turn off a telescreen he thinks it is pretty amazing and it seems that he sort of cant belive what he is seeing at first. Then they go into discussion starting with, "Shall i say it, or will you?" on the bottom of page 169. From there it goes to talk about O'Brien being the leader of the brotherhood or something like that and it goes to talking about if they are all ready to do all of these sacrifices to join and are ready for all this stuff, and then when he is asking the question, "You are prepared, the two of you, to seperate and never see one antoher again?", and at this time Julia speaks up and says, "No!", this goes on to the end of the section where they are leaving and O'Brien has his hand on the switch to turn the telescreen back on.
This next part of the reading begins with Winston waking up with his eyes full of tears, he had awoken from a dream he had, and a memory connected to it when he had woke up. He stats, "that until this moment i beliesed i had murdered my mother?" The thought of it being your fault that someone is dead is horrid, not only does the thought change your emotions it can also consume you for the longest time until you force it to a unconsious place in your mind. The detail of the memory that Winston has is incredible, that so long ago before the party corrupted him all this happened and now that he is rebeling he sort of getting all of his memories back. On page 165 Winston stats, "The proles are human beings," he said aloud. "We are not human." This is an excilent part of the story it goes to show the reader that the proles stayed human and they didnt become corrupt and hardened inside like tha party members have.
Starting on page 167, the next section gives the reader a pretty good interpetation of the room that Winston and Julia were standing in. The book also states the it is a very rare occation that a outer party member got to see or visit the dwelling spot or and inner party member. Winston is amazed at the fact the O'Brien has the ability and the pricilege to turn off a telescreen he thinks it is pretty amazing and it seems that he sort of cant belive what he is seeing at first. Then they go into discussion starting with, "Shall i say it, or will you?" on the bottom of page 169. From there it goes to talk about O'Brien being the leader of the brotherhood or something like that and it goes to talking about if they are all ready to do all of these sacrifices to join and are ready for all this stuff, and then when he is asking the question, "You are prepared, the two of you, to seperate and never see one antoher again?", and at this time Julia speaks up and says, "No!", this goes on to the end of the section where they are leaving and O'Brien has his hand on the switch to turn the telescreen back on.
Tuesday, September 16, 2008
117-151
So for this reading i was kind of scared to see what was going to happen, because Winston is finally getting to meet Julia in a secret place, he really isn't to hesitant to go but he is still a few speculations holding him back. After they do it, i sort of got that he feels like in the dreams he was having. It was kind of funny because of the irony that Julia is the Junior Anti-Sex League adviser and then no she goes and buns Winston. It is sort of messed up that Winston likes the fact that Julia is sort of promiscuous most men don't like that fact about women.
The next thing that we read about is Julia waking up and she starts to plan the next meetings over the next few weeks. We see that Winston and Julia are in this relationship for different reasons such as that Julia likes to outwit the party and that Winston sort of is in love with this girl. He goes on to tell the story that kinda of creeps me out because he mentions that he wants to push his ex-wife off of a cliff, but his point comes across well that it would not have made a difference if she accidentally fell or if she really was murdered, there are no free trials in this government controls everything and their story would not stand up for anything.
In the last section it is hate week and all of this stuff is happening and it is like mid-summer i am assuming because it is pretty hot out it says and we learn all this stuff about Julia and how she pretty much just despises the party and all this other stuff.
I kind of thought that there were a few points that were in "How to read like a professor" one of then is the seasons there was that mentioned with the summer and also when they got done making love the birds or whatever that were flying, and there was another part in the second section that made me think of the a cigar can just be a cigar.
The next thing that we read about is Julia waking up and she starts to plan the next meetings over the next few weeks. We see that Winston and Julia are in this relationship for different reasons such as that Julia likes to outwit the party and that Winston sort of is in love with this girl. He goes on to tell the story that kinda of creeps me out because he mentions that he wants to push his ex-wife off of a cliff, but his point comes across well that it would not have made a difference if she accidentally fell or if she really was murdered, there are no free trials in this government controls everything and their story would not stand up for anything.
In the last section it is hate week and all of this stuff is happening and it is like mid-summer i am assuming because it is pretty hot out it says and we learn all this stuff about Julia and how she pretty much just despises the party and all this other stuff.
I kind of thought that there were a few points that were in "How to read like a professor" one of then is the seasons there was that mentioned with the summer and also when they got done making love the birds or whatever that were flying, and there was another part in the second section that made me think of the a cigar can just be a cigar.
Tuesday, September 9, 2008
81-117
Winston starts out where he is walking through a new place where it seems he hasnt been before, i dont know if it was just me or if anyone else thought that it was royally messed up that when the missile blew up and Winston saw the hand on the plaster all he did was kick it to the side and keep walking so that he was outta of the area that made me think of how messed up the government has these people.
The next part totally sent my mind for a jog, Julia ( i think is her name) falls and Winston is helping her up and then she passes him the note and he is there with the note trying to inturpet what "I LOVE YOU" means. And i also think that Winston has the tendonsy to think badly of others at the start of things he needs to be more open minded about what is going on around him even though he is sort of starting to be more rebellious then he has ever really been. And i think that that Julia is going to be a good thing for Winston because obviously she has been breaking some or many of the party rules just to get alone with Winston.
The next part totally sent my mind for a jog, Julia ( i think is her name) falls and Winston is helping her up and then she passes him the note and he is there with the note trying to inturpet what "I LOVE YOU" means. And i also think that Winston has the tendonsy to think badly of others at the start of things he needs to be more open minded about what is going on around him even though he is sort of starting to be more rebellious then he has ever really been. And i think that that Julia is going to be a good thing for Winston because obviously she has been breaking some or many of the party rules just to get alone with Winston.
37-81
At the start of this chapter Winston is going to work and he works at the Ministry of Truth, what he does is he pretty much rewrites time he changes things up and all of that to make it seem as if the government is always right and Big Brother can never be wrong. But at work Winston is changing a document about some Withers or something like that, but the guy got killed and he was killed a enemy of the party so he go down as a good party member, and i think this is when Winston pretty much knows that the way of life that they are living is really messed up. It is pretty ironic that he works in the ministry of truth and what he is doing is actually changing the truth to what the government wants it to be.
During this next part i was wondering does Syme think that their language (that could be classified as their mind in a sort or way) which is getting smaller is a good thing or not? And when the voice comes over the loud speaker saying something about food rations and Winston says that what they are getting is actually less then before and the girl standing there it is like he had no right to talk of anything negative about anything.
The main thing about this reading is that it makes me think about what our government could be doing doing behind all of our backs and we could just be believing it all because it is what is being said, there could actually be a war going on and we have no idea because we are not suppose to know that what the government is doing is wrong, yea this book is wierd
During this next part i was wondering does Syme think that their language (that could be classified as their mind in a sort or way) which is getting smaller is a good thing or not? And when the voice comes over the loud speaker saying something about food rations and Winston says that what they are getting is actually less then before and the girl standing there it is like he had no right to talk of anything negative about anything.
The main thing about this reading is that it makes me think about what our government could be doing doing behind all of our backs and we could just be believing it all because it is what is being said, there could actually be a war going on and we have no idea because we are not suppose to know that what the government is doing is wrong, yea this book is wierd
Sunday, August 24, 2008
Pages 1-37
Ok the first thing that made me look at again and think for a second was that a clock does not have 13 hours on it, unless we're talking military time.
Even really early in the book the first ten or so pages there is a lot of description, as the reader we already know what Winston Smith looks like, and what everything that leads up to the flat looks like.
The repetition of the three themes WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH, makes it somewhat obvious or makes the reader thing that there is some importance, Big Brother must be kinda relevant also because it has been mentioned more then a few times in this section. And there has to be something more then him just suddenly starting to write stuff on paper like he did with the August 4th 1984 diary caption, but i am still wondering why he wrote down with DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, i think that it must be that he saw all of the the things that were pertaining to it, like the three themes. And i think that all of this wierd writing is messed up i mean like i think it kind of signifies that he is like not focused or that he is going to try to accomplish something in the story.
In chapter three the dream of his mother and him on the sinking ship sort of makes me think back to chapter one when he is talking about how the movie was with the people on the sinking boat and how the helicopter show down all of those people and the bomb blew up the women and the little boy in the boat. And that in the book how to read like professional that everything that is written always goes back to Shakespeare because he wakes up saying it or whatever.
Even really early in the book the first ten or so pages there is a lot of description, as the reader we already know what Winston Smith looks like, and what everything that leads up to the flat looks like.
The repetition of the three themes WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH, makes it somewhat obvious or makes the reader thing that there is some importance, Big Brother must be kinda relevant also because it has been mentioned more then a few times in this section. And there has to be something more then him just suddenly starting to write stuff on paper like he did with the August 4th 1984 diary caption, but i am still wondering why he wrote down with DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, i think that it must be that he saw all of the the things that were pertaining to it, like the three themes. And i think that all of this wierd writing is messed up i mean like i think it kind of signifies that he is like not focused or that he is going to try to accomplish something in the story.
In chapter three the dream of his mother and him on the sinking ship sort of makes me think back to chapter one when he is talking about how the movie was with the people on the sinking boat and how the helicopter show down all of those people and the bomb blew up the women and the little boy in the boat. And that in the book how to read like professional that everything that is written always goes back to Shakespeare because he wakes up saying it or whatever.
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